There are, moreover, eyewitness reports from Jewish survivors about Nazi executions carried out with the assistance of the Ukrainian police in the area of the Volodymyr-Volynskyi prison in 1941 and 1942. A World War II era mass grave was recently found in western Ukraine, pointing to a horrific massacre. by Oleg Grigoryev » 30 Jan 2004, 06:43, Post And it was here - and at two other sites between April and May 1940 - … The Volyn massacre case can actually best be described as Katyn In Reverse. Their remains were discovered, identified, and reburied at a local cemetery immediately after the arrival of German troops. However, the media reporting on these issues is often politically biased, and it even involves a self-imposed censorship concerning the involvement of the OUN and the UPA in Nazi genocide. This is an apolitical forum for discussions on the Axis nations and related topics hosted by the Axis History Factbook in cooperation with Christian Ankerstjerne’s Panzerworld and Christoph Awender's WW2 day by day. In Poland, the very mention of ‘Katyn’ was taboo. by Mark V » 30 Jan 2004, 21:47, Post Incidentally, the small town of Volodymyr-Volynskyi already has a site that is much more similar to the real Katyn than the mass grave recently uncovered. The finding of remains of hundreds people in the mass grave, which was only partly exhumed and which likely contains many more remains, has already been dubbed the “Volyn Katyn”. by Oleg Grigoryev » 30 Jan 2004, 22:22, Return to “The Soviet Union at War 1917-1945”. Although both Polish and Ukrainian officials acknowledged recently that the Jewish victims of the Nazi executions might be among people buried there, they continued to advance the idea of “Polish victims of the NKVD” as the main theory. Families who had lost a loved one in the massacre had to keep it secret. Many Ukrainian newspapers, magazines, radio stations, and TV channels have claimed, in spite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, that this was a Soviet massacre of Poles. Defending History’s Year (2020) Honoring Antanas Zubrys and Dr. Matilda Zubrienė Comes to Close. That massacre is discussed in many studies, archival documents, and eyewitness reports of its survivors. Ivan Katchanovski teaches at the School of Political Studies at the University of Ottawa. Post That wasn't their style and the main problem is where they got these guns. Each one of them [Polish officers] had been shot in the back of the neck with a German bullet. After their shattering defeat at Stalingrad the Nazis came up with the ‘discovery’ of the mass grave at Katyn, containing the … Katyn Massacre – 50 years of fake news July 6, 2020 Thursday, 10 April, 2020, marks the commemoration of a war crime 80 years ago in which the Soviet Union massacred thousands of Poles in locations including the Katyn Forest, near Smolensk, not far from Russia’s present western border. The whole happening was denied until 1990's (50 years) - but it was then admitted. … The first news of a massacre at Katyn Wood came in April 1943 when the Germans found a mass grave of 4,500 Polish soldiers in German-occupied Russia. Massacre. by Sergey Romanov » 30 Jan 2004, 00:03, Post Andrius Kulikauskas: Please Email Finance Ministry by 17 Dec. to Help Save Old Jewish Cemetery, Roland Binet: Story of Inspiring Latvian Rescuer Žanis Lipke, Vilma Fiokla Kiurė: Story of a Little Roma Boy in Modern Vilnius, When Symbol Adored by Neo-Nazis is Plonked on a “Gaon of Vilna Coin”: Selling at $1500 a Pop on Ebay. by Harri » 30 Jan 2004, 21:49, Post No images on the site or in articles may be re-used without permission unless specifically licensed under Creative Commons. This article is published by Ivan Katchanovski, and openDemocracy.net under a Creative Commons licence. Quite remarkably, it is claimed that the discovery of not Soviet but 9-mm German bullet casings from 1941 Walther P38 pistols is “evidence” of the NKVD being the perpetrator of the massacre. The Soviet NKVD used other types of guns and other caliber bullets, specifically during its murder of the prisoners in Volodymyr-Volynskyi. Anti-Katyn campaign. The Burdenko Commission Report has been ignored in the West, presumably as it is seen to defend the USSR, rather than find the truth. I'm thinking that this thread may profit by a move to the allied equipment section of the forum, whose learned readers may be of more assistance. Yet with German bullet casings unearthed and evidence pointing to Nazi / pro-Nazi forces as the perpetrators, Ivan Katchanovski asks why the dominant theory to emerge is of Soviets murdering Poles. Out of seven of them, they extracted over 4,000 bodies, of which nearly 2,800 were identified. The Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists and the Ukrainian Insurgent Army are celebrated as national heroes in western Ukraine. Andrius Kulikauskas: Nov. 24 is New Seimas Deadline for Major Decisions on Old Vilna Jewish Cemetery. Yet with German bullet casings unearthed and evidence pointing to Nazis as perpetrators, Ivan Katchanovski asks why the dominant theory to emerge is of Soviets murdering Poles.A mass-grave containing the remains of at least several hundred (and possibly thousands) of people has been uncovered in the small western Ukrainian town of Volodymyr-Volynskyi, near the border with Poland. An old Russian rifle found at Volodymyr-Volynskyi has also been cited as evidence of the NKVD role. The Katyn Forest Massacre. According to Norman Davies, the Khatyn massacre was deliberately exploited by the Soviet authorities to cover up the Katyn massacre, and this was a major reason for erecting the memorial—it was done in order to cause confusion with Katyn among foreign visitors. The most cursory examination of history books and the internet will prove that we have been told over and over again that it was the Soviets who com-mitted this heinous crime – and in most cases the possibil-ity that it could have been the Germans is not even men-tioned. Andrius Kulikauskas: Lithuania Cancels Funding for Convention Center! New York’s Mirrer Yeshiva Appeals to Lithuania’s Leaders on Fate of Old Vilna Cemetery. After the … Polish and Ukrainian television reports and media publications spoke with near-unanimity about “victims of the NKVD”. KATYN GRAVES STORY DECLARED GRIM FRAUD STOCKHOLM, Sweden, June 28. The Russians responded to the German claims that Russia's secret police did it, by claiming that the massacre was carried out by the Germans themselves. I upload EVERY DAY! 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Little time passed before the “NKVD massacre of Poles” became the dominant explanation following discovery of the mass graves in Volodymyr-Volynskyi in spring of 2011. by David Thompson » 30 Jan 2004, 07:22, Post The Nazi German military over-ran the Katyn area in July, 1941, and Soviet forces re-took the area in September, 1943. Moss Robeson: Is USAID Supporting Glorification of Holocaust Collaborators in Ukraine? Do you want to denied this horrible crime commited by the NKVD from the order of the megalomaniac Stalin against the Polish intellitgentsia Officer. A case in point is coverage of a mass grave that was recently exhumed in the town of Volodymyr-Volynskyi in Western Ukraine. If you kill 250 people a day, then cleaning the premises becomes a serious problem.” At the end of 28 days, all but a few hundred of the captives had been shot and buried in mass graves. 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Such historical issues as Stalin’s policies of mass murder and activities of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) and the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA), attract a great deal of the media coverage in contemporary Ukraine. One Polish expert, Professor Andrzej Kola, who initially suggested that the victims were Poles executed by the Soviet NKVD, has since admitted in an interview after the reburial that they were in all probability Jews executed by the Nazis. Mr. GENSCHOW. Finally, there are also accounts that Polish police, who replaced Ukrainian police who defected in spring 1943, assisted in Nazi executions in the area of the Volodymyr-Volynskyi prison. Their involvement in Nazi genocide is ignored or downplayed. Newly declassified U.S. army documents reveal that two American POWs sent secret coded messages to Army intelligence after their 1943 visit to Katyn, pointing to Soviet guilt for the 1940 massacre. New York: Summit Books, c1986, p. 404 . Also, it would be interesting to know if it was even probable that German military men would carry Walthers of caliber 7.65 and this particular ammo with them at this particular time. Source 4. They describe how at least 36 out of about 300 prisoners — mostly local Ukrainians — were executed by the retreating NKVD when Soviet forces abandoned the frontline town on the second day of the war, 23 June 1941. The opposite is the case. Those weapons were, moreover, of a different make and caliber, and produced before the Nazis came to power in 1933. President of Germany Honors Major East European ‘History Dissident’ Rachel Kostanian, Longtime Head of Vilnius’s Only Holocaust Museum, Berlin Press Release on German President’s Award of Order of Merit to Rachel Kostanian, Believe It Or Not: Over a Year Later, Homage to 'Theoretician' of Ethnic Cleansing of Lithuania's Jews during Holocaust Still Flaunted on Defense Ministry Website, Defending History Was There: Far-Right 16 Feb. 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For other queries about reuse, click here. by Benoit Douville » 30 Jan 2004, 02:03, Post The German army and the security police adopted this type of handgun in large numbers from 1940 onwards. It is, therefore, simply a matter of political convenience for Western Ukraine and Poland to claim a mass murder of Poles by the Soviet NKVD in Volodymyr-Volynskyi, and ignore or downplay the much clearer evidence of the massacre of Jews and other civilians by the Nazis and the local police. What are you trying to prove? The use of German pistols and bullets in the Katyn massacre by the NKVD executioners was largely an exception. 10th June 1943: German Police report on the Katyn massacre Preliminary excavations undertaken in various parts of the wooded area invariably led to the discovery of mass-graves (‘fraternal graves’) in which the bodies of Russians of both sexes were found. 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